Orange County, CA did respond to the offer of performing an audit of the 2024 Election results but there is a slight catch.
Here is a history of reports related to the 2024 Election in Orange County, CA.
1. A couple of days after the 2024 Election on November 5, we reported that the GOP needed assistance in Orange County to help cure ballots in the election. Six US House seats were involved in this huge red county’s election. President Trump shared this message that was cross-posted at The Gateway Pundit.
2. Then on Friday, November 8th, a bomb threat was reported at the counting center in Orange County.
3. After almost three weeks of counting, three US House seats in the county where the GOP candidates were originally up, landed in the Democrat column.
4. Next on December 6th we identified material election issues embedded in the results where, for example, over 300,000 individuals on the voter rolls received two ballots.
5. Then in late December we received the bomb threat email sent to and received by Orange County.
6. In January, we received some footage from the night of the bomb threat that showed that workers were allowed to stay in the facility for over an hour after the County was notified of the threat. During this timeframe one worker was observed inserting a large batch of ballots through a tabulator multiple times. The County came back and assured us that this batch was only counted once.
7. After all this and more, we shared a message on February 13th with the county asking if they would accept our offer to partake in a limited scope audit of the 2024 election results in the county. We shared in part:
To address the many issues and concerns with the 2024 results from Orange County, I’m offering to perform a limited scope audit of the county operations and results recorded and reported in the 2024 election. I don’t expect that our audit team will have to be onsite for more than a week. The focus of this review would be on the validity of the voter rolls, chain of custody documentation, the security of the systems, and the actual legitimate ballots counted.
We received a response to our request a couple . Here is that response (emphasis added):
You are welcome to review public records from the 2024 Presidential General Election.
Before you invest in hiring an audit team, however, I would recommend we discuss what election records you would like to review as California law precludes the disclosure or production of certain election materials and voter registration records. For example:
- California Elections Code sections 17301 and 17305
These statutes mandate that the Registrar of Voters preserve all ballots and voter identification envelopes from this election for at least 22 months in sealed containers that cannot be opened without a court order until the ballots and envelopes are destroyed or recycled.
- California Elections Code sections 18564, 18564.5, 19216, 19217, and 19218 and Title 2 of the California Code of Regulations sections 20360(e) and 20878(a)(3)
These statutes and regulations prohibit any person from touching, modifying, damaging, tampering with, interfering with, or attempting to interfere with State-certified voting system firmware, software, or hardware. Unauthorized access would result in the State requiring the County to replace our voting system.
- California Government Code section 7924.000, Elections Code section 2194, and Title 2 of the California Code of Regulations sections 19001, 19003, and 19008
These statutes and regulations generally provide that voter registration information is confidential and not “public information” accessible to all members of the public.
Such voter registration information encompasses the name, residential address, mailing address, phone number, email address, language preference, date of birth, gender, party preference, registration status, registration date, precinct, registration method, place of birth, registration status reason (reason for the most recent update to the registration), voting assistance request status, permanent vote-by-mail status, county voter identification number, and voting participation history (election date and voting method) of Orange County voters.
Given the comprehensive nature of this information and the potential that such information might be abused, the Registrar of Voters can only provide voter registration information to individuals who submit an application stating the purpose for the request and the intended use of information, including how the information will be securely handled to reduce the risk of information exposure and/or breach.
The Registrar of Voters takes our responsibility to protect the integrity of the election and voting system seriously, which includes careful compliance with chain of custody and security requirements regarding access to election materials and systems, as well as adherence to election transparency requirements.
As part of our commitment to election transparency, members of the public were allowed to observe the processing of ballots during the election, including the completion of the statutorily mandated Logic and Accuracy tests and One Percent Manual Tally audit, and the voluntary Risk Limiting Audit. More than 2,300 observers visited the Registrar of Voters during this election. The reports of these test and audit procedures that confirmed the accuracy of the voting system are public documents.
If you are interested in requesting access to public records, please contact me so we can schedule a meeting to discuss further.
Here is the letter:
Ltr to J Hoft – 2024 Election Audit Offer – 2025-02-25 by Joe Ho on Scribd
In summary, we can perform a limited scope audit of the 2024 results in the county but ballots, mail-in envelopes that contain signatures, election machines, and voter rolls are basically off limits. Wow.
Hate to quibble, but how come nobody uses the actual definition of the word “audit”
‘Forensic audit’ is redundant. Audit already means EVERYTHING.
That is until you remember that Marxists redefine every single word before they speak.
It’s been one of their ‘things’ since before we all were born.
Changing definitions is what Communists do. Right Saul?
I’ve been involved in business audits. The person who originally counted or entered data is forbidden from participating in audits. Professionals know only outside eyes can spot all your mistakes. But in elections, it’s the opposite. That’s not even an audit.
Joe:
I appreciate that you may not be pleased to learn you cannot access everything you would like to review. But, I will not violate State law.
And, if my response regarding ballots and voter identification envelopes was not clear regarding how it applies to me, let me add here…
State law does not authorize me to unseal the containers to access the ballots and voter identification envelopes myself without a court order. It’s not just that I cannot give you and your audit team access.
Bob Page
Thanks Bob for making the point that the state election laws themselves are designed to be crooked because you are not allowed to inspect EVERYTHING.
Exactly my point, sir. Thank you for making it!
Dan:
Your last point is fair. And there are two principles elections officials apply when randomly selected ballots are manually tallied related to the issue you raise:
1. The people who manually tally the ballots during the election audits are not the same people who scanned the ballots or who tabulated the votes in the voting system.
2. The audits are open to the public to observe.
We complete these audits as authorized and required by the California Elections Code and the California Code of Regulations.
If you are interested in watching one of these manual tally audits, I invite you to visit the Registrar of Voters in Santa Ana to observe the manual tally of ballots from seven randomly selected precincts for the State Senate District 36 Special Primary Election. We start the manual tallying of ballots at 10:30 a.m. on Friday, February 27, 2025.
If any voter believes our original tallying of votes with the voting system and our manual tally of the randomly selected ballots in an election contained mistakes, the California Elections Code provides that any voter can request a recount in writing within five days of the certification of the election results.
Bob Page
Registrar of Voters
County of Orange
Bob, thank you for responding,
Ballots, Envelopes, Paper, Machines, and Voter Rolls all not even inspected.
That is simply a falsehood to call it an audit without adding the adjective ‘partial’
The public is allowed to inspect none of the above. Incomplete audits are a waste, they miss all the fraud by not inspected most of the factors!
Therefore making an audit that is not even allowed to find fraud.
What good is it if the public is not allowed to inspect EVERYTHING.
Please don’t ignore the point. It is false to call this an audit at all.
Dan:
State law requires that elections officials allow the public to observe the administration of the election, including the processing of ballots, the testing of the voting system equipment and software, and the manual tally of randomly selected ballots.
But, once the election results have been certified and any voter-requested recount is completed, State law requires elections officials to preserve the ballots, voter identification envelopes, and backed up electronic election data in sealed containers that can only be accessed through a court order.
Also, while State law requires the public be able to observe the administration of elections, State law prohibits the public from touching ballots, envelopes and voting system equipment and software.
I can assure you that the Orange County Registrar of Voters takes election integrity very seriously and completes numerous steps to protect the County’s state-certified voting system and ensure it accurately counts votes. These security and integrity measures include:
• After the voting system was certified, Secretary of State staff hand-delivered the voting system software to the Registrar of Voters. This golden image software is loaded onto all voting system equipment before each election and removed from the equipment after the election. We confirm the software has not been modified before and after each election.
• We run test ballots through each ballot scanner we use in an election to ensure each scanner is working properly and accurately counting the votes on the test ballots. This Logic and Accuracy Test is conducted before and after each election.
• Every voter casts a paper ballot so that we can confirm the accuracy of the voting system. During the canvass period of each election, the Registrar of Voters hand counts all of the ballots in at least one percent of precincts that are randomly selected to confirm the results of every contest on the ballot. Every One Percent Manual Tally conducted under my leadership as Registrar of Voters for Orange County and previously for San Bernardino County has confirmed the voting system results.
• All voting system equipment is not connected to the internet, or any outside network for that matter. The Registrar of Voters complies with the requirements of Elections Code section 19205.
• Running critical operations on the voting system requires dual factor authentication by the user – to know a password that the Registrar of Voters creates for each election and to have a physical key that is updated every time a new election database is created. The key must be inserted into a USB drive of a piece of voting system equipment at the same time the password is entered. The password is encrypted and is not stored in plain text.
• The Registrar of Voters uses numbered security seals to cover every opening of each piece of voting system equipment. These seals are checked and logged daily by employees to prevent and detect tampering.
• Entry to the Registrar of Voters central ballot processing operation is protected by security guards and Sheriff’s deputies. The areas where we handle live ballots and tally the votes require security card key access, which is limited to a certain number of our employees.
If you believe the public should have expanded access to election materials, I recommend you reach out to your California State Senator and Assembly Member to advocate for State law to be amended.
Hate to quibble, but how come nobody uses the actual definition of the word “audit”
‘Forensic audit’ is redundant. Audit already means EVERYTHING.
That is until you remember that Marxists redefine every single word before they speak.
It’s been one of their ‘things’ since before we all were born.
Changing definitions is what Communists do. Right Saul?
I’ve been involved in business audits. The person who originally counted or entered data is forbidden from participating in audits. Professionals know only outside eyes can spot all your mistakes. But in elections, it’s the opposite. That’s not even an audit.
Dan:
Your last point is fair. And there are two principles elections officials apply when randomly selected ballots are manually tallied related to the issue you raise:
1. The people who manually tally the ballots during the election audits are not the same people who scanned the ballots or who tabulated the votes in the voting system.
2. The audits are open to the public to observe.
We complete these audits as authorized and required by the California Elections Code and the California Code of Regulations.
If you are interested in watching one of these manual tally audits, I invite you to visit the Registrar of Voters in Santa Ana to observe the manual tally of ballots from seven randomly selected precincts for the State Senate District 36 Special Primary Election. We start the manual tallying of ballots at 10:30 a.m. on Friday, February 27, 2025.
If any voter believes our original tallying of votes with the voting system and our manual tally of the randomly selected ballots in an election contained mistakes, the California Elections Code provides that any voter can request a recount in writing within five days of the certification of the election results.
Bob Page
Registrar of Voters
County of Orange
Bob:
Friday is February 28th.
Attention to detail matters…
Bob, thank you for responding,
Ballots, Envelopes, Paper, Machines, and Voter Rolls all not even inspected.
That is simply a falsehood to call it an audit without adding the adjective ‘partial’
The public is allowed to inspect none of the above. Incomplete audits are a waste, they miss all the fraud by not inspected most of the factors!
Therefore making an audit that is not even allowed to find fraud.
What good is it if the public is not allowed to inspect EVERYTHING.
Please don’t ignore the point. It is false to call this an audit at all.
Dan:
State law requires that elections officials allow the public to observe the administration of the election, including the processing of ballots, the testing of the voting system equipment and software, and the manual tally of randomly selected ballots.
But, once the election results have been certified and any voter-requested recount is completed, State law requires elections officials to preserve the ballots, voter identification envelopes, and backed up electronic election data in sealed containers that can only be accessed through a court order.
Also, while State law requires the public be able to observe the administration of elections, State law prohibits the public from touching ballots, envelopes and voting system equipment and software.
I can assure you that the Orange County Registrar of Voters takes election integrity very seriously and completes numerous steps to protect the County’s state-certified voting system and ensure it accurately counts votes. These security and integrity measures include:
• After the voting system was certified, Secretary of State staff hand-delivered the voting system software to the Registrar of Voters. This golden image software is loaded onto all voting system equipment before each election and removed from the equipment after the election. We confirm the software has not been modified before and after each election.
• We run test ballots through each ballot scanner we use in an election to ensure each scanner is working properly and accurately counting the votes on the test ballots. This Logic and Accuracy Test is conducted before and after each election.
• Every voter casts a paper ballot so that we can confirm the accuracy of the voting system. During the canvass period of each election, the Registrar of Voters hand counts all of the ballots in at least one percent of precincts that are randomly selected to confirm the results of every contest on the ballot. Every One Percent Manual Tally conducted under my leadership as Registrar of Voters for Orange County and previously for San Bernardino County has confirmed the voting system results.
• All voting system equipment is not connected to the internet, or any outside network for that matter. The Registrar of Voters complies with the requirements of Elections Code section 19205.
• Running critical operations on the voting system requires dual factor authentication by the user – to know a password that the Registrar of Voters creates for each election and to have a physical key that is updated every time a new election database is created. The key must be inserted into a USB drive of a piece of voting system equipment at the same time the password is entered. The password is encrypted and is not stored in plain text.
• The Registrar of Voters uses numbered security seals to cover every opening of each piece of voting system equipment. These seals are checked and logged daily by employees to prevent and detect tampering.
• Entry to the Registrar of Voters central ballot processing operation is protected by security guards and Sheriff’s deputies. The areas where we handle live ballots and tally the votes require security card key access, which is limited to a certain number of our employees.
If you believe the public should have expanded access to election materials, I recommend you reach out to your California State Senator and Assembly Member to advocate for State law to be amended.
Joe:
I appreciate that you may not be pleased to learn you cannot access everything you would like to review. But, I will not violate State law.
And, if my response regarding ballots and voter identification envelopes was not clear regarding how it applies to me, let me add here…
State law does not authorize me to unseal the containers to access the ballots and voter identification envelopes myself without a court order. It’s not just that I cannot give you and your audit team access.
Bob Page
Thanks Bob for making the point that the state election laws themselves are designed to be crooked because you are not allowed to inspect EVERYTHING.
Exactly my point, sir. Thank you for making it!
Bob:
Friday is February 28th.
Attention to detail matters…
Bee. Good catch. You are correct. Probably a reminder that I shouldn’t post at 10 p.m.
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If the audit WERE opened, with all the regs Cali demands, I’ll bet that there was severe “fire damage” and all records are gone, regardless.
The election materials from the March 5, 2024 Presidential Primary Election and the November 5, 2024 Presidential General Election are being preserved in sealed containers for 22 months from the date of each election. There have been no events at the Orange County Registrar of Voters that would have damaged the materials.
If the audit WERE opened, with all the regs Cali demands, I’ll bet that there was severe “fire damage” and all records are gone, regardless.
The election materials from the March 5, 2024 Presidential Primary Election and the November 5, 2024 Presidential General Election are being preserved in sealed containers for 22 months from the date of each election. There have been no events at the Orange County Registrar of Voters that would have damaged the materials.