Twin Falls: Why Are Black Box Suicide Warnings Missing in Mass Murder Investigations?
Republished with permission from AbleChild.
Eight days after a gunman opened fire at an In-N-Out Burger in Twin Falls, Idaho, killing three people, wounding seven, and then dying from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, the public has received surveillance video, a name, fragments of a college history, and assurances that an investigation is underway.
What it has not received is a meaningful public accounting of what government and government-funded systems knew about 24-year-old Chad Williams before the August 1st assault.
The College of Southern Idaho reports that Williams attended from 2022 to 2023 without graduating, indicating Williams held a student-government position and was removed from office in February 2023. But neither the college nor police, behavioral-health agencies, schools, courts, or family members have publicly addressed whether Williams previously had any relationships with counselors, school psychologists, crisis teams, emergency rooms, social-service agencies, or law enforcement.
The public is instead receiving selected biographical details: college enrollment, non-graduation, student-government removal, social-media posts, and witness impressions. Institutions holding potentially relevant information have not publicly addressed prior evaluations, treatment contacts, crisis interventions, prescriptions, documented warnings, or missed opportunities to act.
Had Williams been evaluated by any school counselors at any time in his young life? Did Williams receive counseling, behavioral services, discipline, or crisis intervention and was Williams seen by a public mental health program, hospital, emergency department, mobile crisis team, or county provider? Were there police contacts, welfare checks, threat reports, court proceedings, or involuntary-commitment petitions?
For decades, taxpayers have funded behavioral-health agencies, school counseling, suicide-prevention programs, crisis networks, threat-assessment teams, Medicaid treatment, and firearm background-check systems. These systems are intended to identify crises, intervene early, reduce violence, and report certain mental-health adjudications for firearm background checks. Idaho requires relevant mental-health determinations to be submitted to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS.
After a mass killing, the public is entitled to ask whether those systems encountered the perpetrator beforehand, what was documented, what was communicated, and what was done or failed to be done.
Williams’s death is central, not incidental. Police say Williams died by self-inflicted gunshot wound after the attack. More than a week later, officials had not publicly said whether investigators recovered prescription bottles, pharmacy information, treatment records, toxicology evidence, provider communications, or evidence of earlier behavioral-health intervention.
Did investigators find psychiatric treatment, psychotropic-drug use, medication changes or withdrawal, adverse effects, or prior suicide intervention? If so, will that information be disclosed?
AbleChild testified before the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) during the effort to secure a black-box suicidality warning for SSRI antidepressants. The warning applies to children, adolescents, and young adults through age 24. That cutoff reflects an FDA regulatory interpretation of pooled clinical-trial data; it does not establish that suicidal thinking, agitation, akathisia, impulsivity, withdrawal, or other adverse psychiatric effects cannot occur after the age of 24.
Williams was 24. In a case involving mass violence and suicide, investigators should determine whether evidence of psychiatric treatment, prescriptions, medication changes, withdrawal, adverse reactions, or earlier suicide intervention was found in his residence, vehicle, phone, pharmacy history, toxicology, or records. That is basic investigative diligence, not a conclusion about causation.
The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) is often invoked as an absolute barrier to public safety. It is not. The Privacy Rule permits good-faith disclosures consistent with law and ethics when a provider believes a patient presents a serious and imminent threat to self or others. It also does not bar investigators from obtaining relevant records through lawful process or authorized disclosures to oversight agencies, law enforcement, courts, medical examiners, or coroners.
The public has already been told about Williams’s education and student-government discipline. If institutions can release selected background details, it seems appropriate to explain how potentially relevant treatment, prescription, crisis, and safety information will be independently reviewed while protecting lawful privacy interests.
Williams is dead; three people were killed and seven wounded. The question is whether providers, schools, agencies, or other systems had warning information, whether they acted, and whether drug safety warrants examination. Privacy should protect patients from exploitation, not prevent accountable investigation of possible negligence, dangerous prescribing, ignored adverse effects, failure to communicate a serious threat, or institutional misconduct.
Twin Falls Police, Idaho State Police, the FBI, the College of Southern Idaho, relevant school districts, and Idaho behavioral-health authorities should answer:
- Did police obtain warrants or other legal authority for Williams’ residence, vehicle, phone, computer, cloud accounts, pharmacy data, and medical records?
- Were medications, pill bottles, medication lists, psychiatric documents, discharge papers, or toxicology evidence recovered?
- Did any provider, school, crisis program, family member, or agency document suicidal thinking, dangerous behavior, weapon access, or threats toward others?
- Did prior government contact produce a warning, treatment plan, legal finding, firearm restriction, or a decision not to intervene?
- Will authorities issue a public after-action report explaining what they found, what they did not find, and what they contend cannot legally be released?
The families of those killed deserve more than sympathy, and the wounded deserve more than press conferences. The public deserves to know whether systems designed to prevent suicide, violence, and mass-casualty events had warning information before August 1 or only began asking questions after three people were dead.
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In the 90's Ritalin had a black box warning against prescribing to children because it would "stunt their growth" (Kat Timpf took it). It was used anyways and everntually the warning just disappeared. Even though it as been PROVEN that the zoloft class of drugs do not help depression and often make it worse, it is still prescribed. Why? because if the doctors don't and a person offs themselves the doc could get sued for not prescribing drugs as "standard of care" requires.
I wonder if Timpf is still on drugs.
From watching Gutfeld, I think she skips them sometimes
Ritalin an Teffinal was the Biggest and Most Popular Sedative's used in Big City Jail's and State Prison's.
In the 1980's Ritalin an Teffinal were the 2 Biggest and Most Popular Tranquilizers/Sedatives used in Big City Jail's and State Prison's.
They are a "weapon formed against us".
YES! I want to know if that guy was on psychotropics!!
. . .or transitioning drugs
Steroids, Estrogen!
Maybe people are getting programmed to do this, and final line of code is KILL YOURSELF
No matter how many danger signs were present you cannot and should not lock someone up before any crime is committed. The insane asylums were shut down mostly because once accused you never got out.
There is NO actual Cure for the Mentally Ill, there is only Big Pharma, Big Medical Industry and of course the Bigger State Prison Complex's to house them. I remember in 1982 when R Reagan ordered the State's to Close them down and Indiana State Mental Health Facilities started moving the Patient's. I was New in LE at the time and helped to Process the ones that were being assigned to Indian Dept Of Corrections or going to the street's.
Do we really know what causes mental illness?
I have a theory, that the devil is in the details, every time.
Do you have a sound mind?
Thank the Lord Jesus Christ.
Do we really know what causes mental illness? Honest answer: NO! I do know we hear about Injurie’s, drug’s, physical/mental abuse and many other “causes” and I know there has never been any living person Cured, it’s life long Doc Appt’s and Big Pharma Med’s.
The mentally ill fill the jails, and the streets.
FBI out of Salt Lake City immediately on scene. I wonder if it was to control the narrative. The Police Chief and Sheriff seemed straight up.
And that is a long drive.
I’m sure, a private plane was involved. There’s probably a Salt Lake City Police department plane.
I don't know why the feds even show up. They don't do anything, local law enforcement conduct the investigations, local prosecutors take the cases to local courts. It's a crap shoot, literally.
And the lone perp is dead so there’s no trial.
As mentioned, the FBI and ATF show up, so that THEY can "control the scene", by ignoring key evidence, and to make sure that state and local law enforcement who might have been informed of some of the plans (as they were at Butler, PA), do NOT go off the official narrative, and allow something meaningful to slip out.
My first question is always "what drugs were they taking?". Big pharma covers that up.
I guess HIPAA covers that up.
Going by his picture, because that's all we typically get, is this 4'2" hunk of man stuff rode the gay bus, had gender confusion brought on by Democrat Media and magnified by Government Schools until the spew from his college teachers pushed him into the Democrat Frankenstein mode. How'd I do?
Mentally ill and on drugs, with mass propaganda.
83% of mass shooters are found to be mentally ill and taking psychotropic drugs that are known to cause confusion, anxiety, anger and violence. Yet psychiatrists prescribe them anyway. Sometimes as many as five difference drugs.
A+
"What it has not received is a meaningful public accounting of what government and government-funded systems knew about …."
Perhaps because law enforcement knew about, or, as was the assassins who made the attempts on then candidate, or NOW PRESIDENT Trump's life, WERE, repeat, WERE known to, and aided by the FBIin these mass shootings, or at least "on the radar" of the state and local law enforcement agencies, BUT what better way for law enforcement to come out and cite the "need' for MORE gun control laws.
That is why there are mass-shootings.
Some psyco globalists thought they could overturn the 2nd Amemdment.
That isn't working.
Well, they’re not going to just tell us about MK ultra that wasn’t really shut down.
Well, our politicians are paid well by big pharma to get kids hooked early and to make sure Americans pay a premium. Furthermore, the parents who buy into it are never going to admit their mistake, or even admit that their kids were hooked on SSRI's when they shoot a bunch of people and then take their own lives. Good luck getting that information.
How many 6 year old children are put on drugs to "correct their behavior?"
I would like to see a study on that.
It's so rampant that you can't have a conversation about it with your peers. They embarrassingly admit that they have their kid hopped up on something or other but assure you that it's legitimate and much needed.
Rx Drugs given to these shooters is a big part of the problem.
You have to find the secret Hole The Democrat Terrorist Socialist have , to hide,evidence that might be incriminating. Anf if you do happen to find it, They have a Sock Puppet judge to dismiss all charges and Gag it.
Well sure…..
If goobermint told the truth of the failure of big pharma prescribed mental drugs, and failure of goobermint mandated psycho treatment, then they would lose the narrative that the gun did it for gun control….
Cant have that…..
Big Pharma doesn’t want you to know.
But some of us do know.
Everyone around me is popping pills. They do not read the warnings, and the doctors don't care.
Remember when Dr. Malone told us about mass psychosis?
That was connected to the scamdemic, but its application is far greater.
Remember when Dr. Malone told us about mass psychosis?
That was connected to the scamdemic, but its application is far greater.
HIPAA. Isn't it a grand idea?!?!?!?
I'm sure [they] thought so.
It made all that health info. privileged, to the patients' detriment.
the media won't tell you anything unless it's a Republican doing the shooting
There was a case in California a few years ago. A guy offed himself in a bathroom of an amusement park. Before he died he wrote on the mirror. "I can't do this, I'm not a killer" I can't do this ? As if someone was prompting him to do it. He was in therapy at the time. You would be shocked how many mass murderers are in therapy. Sounds logical like they were trying to get help. What if the therapy was really programming.
These are the same questions we have for EVEY mass sh00ter!! The information is always redacted.
I think investigators know about the influence 'psych' meds have on young people, and how many of these young 'mass shooters' were on those meds, but the powers that be don't want the info getting out to the public. It may trigger lawsuits and affect Big Pharma's bottom line!
Truth is the first casualty of the pharmaceutical industry.
We are seeing law enforcement hiding information and disregarding the public's request for the same, more and more. From the FBI all the way down to the local "Barney Fife", they play "I got a secret". From the Vegas shooting , to the Butler assassination attempt, the public is given stupid half-baked response. Either they think the public are their inferiors, not deserving any explanation or they're covering for the ruling elite, making sure the "narrative du jour" is never challenged. THIS CAN NOT STAND IN AMERICA!
Great article with a massively IMPORTANT POINT.
nothing's missing but there is a lot being hidden…..
These Mass Shooter's, Psychiatrist, Counselors, Etc appear to be a part of the Old CIA MK Ultra Program conducted back in the 1950's, or earlier, in secret at Harvard U and Possibly other Ivy League Universities. Plus Big Pharma and Medical Industry has to be included. IMHO.
When the mass-shooter, the murderer, is dead, there should be a toxicology report by the medical examiner/coroner.
Law enforcement or investigators should obtain the killer's medical records, to identify any prescription drugs the killer may have been taking. Not to provide a defense, or an excuse, but to identify influencing substances.
In the case of those murderers that do live following the crimes, toxicology tests, and medical records should be obtained by the prosecution, for presentation in court.
The idea that this should be "protected health information," of murderers, is ludicrous.
Why are we subjected to drug commercials 24/7?
Why are mental illnesses considered to be "normal?"
Why was HIPAA really instituted?
The reason there is no meaningful public accounting of what government and government-funded systems knew about this monster is because they are working on the spin to deflect the fact they did know about him. Ya , I'm a cynic and distrust government but this has happed time and time again. All the Police do is arrive to clean up the mess after the fact.
I say that is healthy skepticism.
I swear at this point the official’s spend magnitudes more time and energy covering their butts than doing their jobs in the first place. It’s pathetic.
Their first thought, likely.
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Thank you, Joe Hoft and Ablechild, for this work! Please stay on this issue.
Able child of God.
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Why don’t we hear from people who knew him on Facebook what have u?
Line up all the time lines of the lone shooter events over the last decade: '18 Thousand Oaks shooting with 23 souls; '19 Walmart shooting with 23 souls; '19 Va Bch city employee 12 souls; '19 Gilroy Garlic Festival 3 souls; '22 Uvalde with 21 souls; '22 Buffalo supermarket with 10 souls; '23 Monterey Park shooting with 11 souls.
Do I need to add the Nashville and Minneapolis trantifas who took multiple souls of elementary aged kids? The Butler event doesn't quite fit the sequence of events though tragic it was.
Line up ALL of the timelines on the day of the MK Ultra event – they ALL appear to follow the same sequence of events. In other words, they were trained in how they would commit their acts. Almost like that DeCarlos Brown lunatic complaining about hearing voices in his head before he went to work carving up Iryna….they were trained for the acts they committed.
Whe nobody will call a “football bat” an f’ing retahded “football bat.” Because “political korrektness.”