National Law Needed to Determine if Psychiatric Drugs are Involved in Shootings
Republished with permission from AbleChild.
It was just three days ago that 20-year-old Wess Roley inexplicably ambushed and murdered two Idaho firefighters and left one in critical condition. Sniper Roley reportedly took his own life during the rampage. As with each of these random murderous shootings, one can only wonder why. To get to that answer serious questions need to be answered, beginning with the shooter’s mental health records.
The information that has been provided to the public so far mentions Roley had only recently moved to the Coeur d’Alene area and apparently was living in his van at the time of the shooting. Roley also is reported to have been expelled from High School in Arizona during his sophomore year over “some trouble with a girl.”
Roley’s grandfather explained that his grandson was “nervous, high strung and kind of a loner.” Roley, however, did dream of becoming a firefighter and according to his grandfather, “actually really respected law enforcement.” Roley’s grandfather further explained that his grandson “loved firefighters and it didn’t make sense that he was shooting firefighters.” It has been confirmed that Roley had been in contact with representatives about joining the fire service.
Roley did not leave any known manifest and his family, like law enforcement, had no idea what precipitated the attack. The family said in a written statement that “we would like to offer our most heartfelt condolences to the families of those whose lives were taken…there are no words that can suffice for this tragedy…we do not understand why this happened or how this came about.”
What is clear is that Roley, in order to draw the firefighters to the Canfield Mountain Range, set a brush fire and systematically went about the business of shooting three arriving firefighters. Premeditation is not questioned. So, what made Roley tick or, more to the point, what ticked off Roley to the point of committing murder?
Having all the information is necessary. To be specific, was Wess Roley ever the recipient of mental health care? Was Roley ever examined by any mental health providers during his school years? Was Roley ever prescribed psychiatric mind-altering drugs? Finally, will an autopsy be carried out on Roley to find out what drugs may have been in his system at the time of the attack?
AbleChild sponsored landmark legislation in Tennessee last summer and the Tennessee legislature passed HB 1349/SB 1146 requiring autopsies of suspected mass shooters to include toxicology screenings for prescription psychotropic drugs.
While the Tennessee law requires that four or more individuals must be killed in the shooting event, AbleChild would argue that one victim should trigger the autopsy drug screening and this kind of legislation needs to be enacted nationally.
Under Tennessee law, the results of such drug screenings are released to the public. The Tennessee law was groundbreaking legislation, and the information gleaned from the law will help law enforcement understand what may be driving these senseless killings.
Aware that too many of these shooters are the recipients of mental health drug “treatments” during their lives, it is time for states to take the necessary steps to determine if the drug “treatments” are playing a role in these random tragedies.
If Roley had been drugged at any time in his young life, it is important that his family share that information. There is no doubt that many of the psychiatric drugs prescribed as “treatment” can cause violent, deadly behavior. Roley may have been a victim of these “treatments.” At a minimum, having this mental health treatment information would, at least, eliminate it as a possible mitigator.
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No one absolutely not one soul should be on any sycotropic medication until the brain is Fully developed typically about 25 unless however the child is extremely ill in the head but this would make that said child needing more than a school nurse or a Shrink with a lazy boy and a prescription pad.
You don’t need a law-drugs have been involved in ALL the shootings.
‘Bout damn time.
No one absolutely not one soul should be on any sycotropic medication until the brain is Fully developed typically about 25 unless however the child is extremely ill in the head but this would make that said child needing more than a school nurse or a Shrink with a lazy boy and a prescription pad.
I’m sorry, but this is such a reach. I don’t know how this conclusion was ever reached. It is the chicken and the egg. Unstable people take drugs because they have psychiatric problems. Some very few of them go on to commit violence and you conclude the drugs made them commit violence? Don’t you understand that millions of people do take these drugs without ever committing an act of violence? By your logic, the drugs cause violence. Obviously, they do not, given so many people take them without becoming violent. This is faulty logic.
You don’t need a law-drugs have been involved in ALL the shootings.
That’s probably true, because at some point in their lives, almost every child in the public education system has been placed on these drugs, or has acquired them “under the table” from some child who has been prescribed them.
‘Bout damn time.
That’s probably true, because at some point in their lives, almost every child in the public education system has been placed on these drugs, or has acquired them “under the table” from some child who has been prescribed them.
Believe that if you wish, but almost or all the ssri drugs list as a possible “side effect” “may cause violent or suicidal tendencies.” Sounds pretty straightforward to me.
I’m sorry, but this is such a reach. I don’t know how this conclusion was ever reached. It is the chicken and the egg. Unstable people take drugs because they have psychiatric problems. Some very few of them go on to commit violence and you conclude the drugs made them commit violence? Don’t you understand that millions of people do take these drugs without ever committing an act of violence? By your logic, the drugs cause violence. Obviously, they do not, given so many people take them without becoming violent. This is faulty logic.
Believe that if you wish, but almost or all the ssri drugs list as a possible “side effect” “may cause violent or suicidal tendencies.” Sounds pretty straightforward to me.
Being a life long sufferer of mental illness and addiction I would say this kid most likely needed to be medicated and was not. The meds suck and have bad side effects but if you find one that helps it can be life changing. I’m adhd,asd,ocpd,ptsd,gad,mdd with a eating disorder and at any point in my life could have did the same thing as this kid. I thank God everyday for looking out for me and getting me on a medicated path to healing. Godbless
Patricia please, quit believing the lies they are telling you. They have been using these drugs on their victims since at least the 50’s to my knowledge. This is proven fact. I can give you many victims still living that have undergone their reprogramming with the use of drugs. I can tell you this, the people actually pulling the trigger are some very evil people. I’m not talking about these young men, but their handlers. They are very good at hiding their deeds from the public, but, “you will know them by their fruits”. I will give you a hint; take this young mans picture and the young man that “attempted” to take out President Trump in PA. Listen to what these young men are telling us, not so much in words, but in deeds. The deeds I’m referring to are not the ones that made them known. Happy hunting.
If you aren’t actually going to NAME the “drug that was used since the 50s” that causes people to commit violence towards others you’re wasting time. We shouldn’t consider any of your statement to be true if we can’t verify it.
How many mass shootings did not involve shooters on psychiatric drugs?
No one said every person taking the drug acts on the homicidal or suicidal tendencies but the warning is on the box that it can be a side effect.
You are right. Drugs didn’t make them kill people. But drugs can elevate an already unstable mind, especially a young mind. Those drugs, strong chemicals, should not be dispersed around as candy. The logic is either faulty or good, all depending on your understanding of the same.
Sorry, but the overwhelming majority of young people who go on shooting sprees have been found to be on psychotropic drugs. It’s been going on for years and needs to stop. NO ONE UNDER THE AGE OF 25 SHOULD EVER BE PUT ON PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS. Their brains are not yet fully formed. Counseling should always be the treatment of choice for troubled youths.
Being a life long sufferer of mental illness and addiction I would say this kid most likely needed to be medicated and was not. The meds suck and have bad side effects but if you find one that helps it can be life changing. I’m adhd,asd,ocpd,ptsd,gad,mdd with a eating disorder and at any point in my life could have did the same thing as this kid. I thank God everyday for looking out for me and getting me on a medicated path to healing. Godbless
Patricia please, quit believing the lies they are telling you. They have been using these drugs on their victims since at least the 50’s to my knowledge. This is proven fact. I can give you many victims still living that have undergone their reprogramming with the use of drugs. I can tell you this, the people actually pulling the trigger are some very evil people. I’m not talking about these young men, but their handlers. They are very good at hiding their deeds from the public, but, “you will know them by their fruits”. I will give you a hint; take this young mans picture and the young man that “attempted” to take out President Trump in PA. Listen to what these young men are telling us, not so much in words, but in deeds. The deeds I’m referring to are not the ones that made them known. Happy hunting.
Psychotropic drugs should be outlawed. Everyone here knows they are behind most mass shootings. We have eyes and ears. It’s in your face. The government is so used to lying. They just keep lying until people believe them.
How many mass shootings did not involve shooters on psychiatric drugs?
Is it a boy, is it a girl, is it a nut or is it a squirrel?
When undue, abject, extreme and high-volume violence is perpetrated, we should have a tool to break ‘privacy’ shields and civil settlement NDAs.
WE NEED THIS NOW!!
No one said every person taking the drug acts on the homicidal or suicidal tendencies but the warning is on the box that it can be a side effect.
“NATIONAL LAW NEEDED TO DETERMINE IF PSYCHIATRIC DRUGS ARE INVOLVED IN SHOOTINGS” Ridiculous logic. It does not matter WHY someone does something. If it is illegal, they suffer the consequences. How hard is that?
Psychotropic drugs should be outlawed. Everyone here knows they are behind most mass shootings. We have eyes and ears. It’s in your face. The government is so used to lying. They just keep lying until people believe them.
You are right. Drugs didn’t make them kill people. But drugs can elevate an already unstable mind, especially a young mind. Those drugs, strong chemicals, should not be dispersed around as candy. The logic is either faulty or good, all depending on your understanding of the same.
Is it a boy, is it a girl, is it a nut or is it a squirrel?
Sorry, but the overwhelming majority of young people who go on shooting sprees have been found to be on psychotropic drugs. It’s been going on for years and needs to stop. NO ONE UNDER THE AGE OF 25 SHOULD EVER BE PUT ON PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS. Their brains are not yet fully formed. Counseling should always be the treatment of choice for troubled youths.
When undue, abject, extreme and high-volume violence is perpetrated, we should have a tool to break ‘privacy’ shields and civil settlement NDAs.
WE NEED THIS NOW!!
“NATIONAL LAW NEEDED TO DETERMINE IF PSYCHIATRIC DRUGS ARE INVOLVED IN SHOOTINGS” Ridiculous logic. It does not matter WHY someone does something. If it is illegal, they suffer the consequences. How hard is that?
If you aren’t actually going to NAME the “drug that was used since the 50s” that causes people to commit violence towards others you’re wasting time. We shouldn’t consider any of your statement to be true if we can’t verify it.